like warren buffet always says when the tide goes out you can see who is naked. look at sheldon adelson. he contributed so much to so many republican candidates and at the end of the day only one of his candidates won. the koch brothers as well. but they're coming back. they're going to stay involved. >> and if i were a democrat, or a democratic leader, i'd say that's a great thing. because they are fueling a split in the republican party right now. they are, their organization, americans for prosperity, a lot of what they've done over the past few years has created a great sort of sense of unreality among republicans. >> in what way? >> they push forward the tea party, which is now a huge problem for the republican leadership, and they say they're going to keep doing that. so from the democratic point of view that is actually a good thing. i'm not saying everything they've done has been unsucce unsuccessf unsuccessful. they supported a lot of important institutions on the right. but right now -- >> and also a lot of important institutions in new york as well. >>